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This might just be a *me* thing, but I do find it kind of fascinating that almost every Feminist Greek Myth Retelling seems compelled to flatten Helen into a two-dimensional basic-bitch with no guilt or remorse for her actions despite the fact that self-loathing for her own beauty, a feeling of a lack of agency in the face of Aphrodite's whims and a complicated affection for and loyalty to both the Greeks and the Trojans are all major characteristics of hers in both The Odyssey and The Iliad. I'm sure this has nothing to do with the dynamics of modern feminism and patriarchy whatsoever.
#like. guys. if there's any character who's just BEGGING for a retelling from their POV other than Briseis and Lavinia#(which have already been done)#it is Helen#she is the literal quintessence of 'woman relegated to object in a competition between men'#and yet she still somehow has a more nuanced character in stories written by ANCIENT GREEK MEN (gestures generally at Athens)#then she does today#what are you people doing#classics#greek mythology#should i tag the books im referring to? yes. i will actually.#the song of achilles#a thousand ships#silence of the girls#the women of troy#(just realised that Lavinia technically isn't a creation by Greek men but snsyshdjeuds#Grecco-Roman mythology / Aeneid follows Iliad / you get my point)#anyway come at me i'm ready to be burned at the stake#oh shit i also forgot#the penelopiad
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let’s take a minute to talk about hecuba. hecuba, who saw her own husband die, hecuba, who’s daughter was cursed for not wanting to sleep with a god, hecuba, who had to wait days to get back the body of her favorite son, hecuba, who went from being queen to being a slave within a matter of days. hecuba who lost everything and everyone important to her and not being able to do anything about it.
#i have a special attachment to her bc of euripides the women of troy#it’s so tragic#please read it#also her and cassandra’s scene makes me want to cry#and when she found out one of her daughters died?? WHY#euripides#the women of troy#the iliad#hector of troy#cassandra of troy
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reading The Song of Achilles and then immediately after reading The Silence of the Girls gave me whiplash
#the song of achilles#achilles#patroclus#briseis#the silence of the girls#the women of troy#the trojan war
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Nothing like my usual posts but I just finished Babel by R.F. Kuang and I’m in a book hangover so I need something new to read.
If you know any books with gay characters, murder and dark academia vibes, or similar to the books I usually post about drop the title in my ask box pls.
(I also like historical fiction, thrillers, fantasy and occasionally romance, so if you have any favourites on those genres drop them too)
#some of my favs are:#the secret history#if we were villains#the song of achilles#the atlas six#the atlas paradox#babel rf kuang#the silence of the girls#the women of troy#open water#normal people#in five years#a little life#the binding#six of crows#the shadowhuter chronicles#dark academia#dark acadamia aesthetic#greek mythology#book recs
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The silence of the girls and women of Troy memes because it’s 2 am and I’m hilarious
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Title: The Women of Troy | Author: Pat Barker | Publisher: Doubleday (2021)
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It was one of those moments that I think everybody experiences - and they don't have to be dramatic - when things begin to change; and you know there's no point ruminating about it, because thinking isn't going to help you understand. You're not ready to understand it yet; you have to live your way into the meaning.
Pat Barker, The Women of Troy.
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Drums, pipes, trumpets, the rhythmical pounding of swords on shields- to the fighters, this music meant honour, glory, courage, comradeship . . . To the crows, it only ever meant food. They didn't care who won or lost; their day always ended well.
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#books#book quote#dark academia#literature#books and libraries#books and literature#the women of troy#pat barker#the women of troy by pat barker#booksbooksbooks#war quotes#life quotes#my post#book
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The Women of Troy - Romania
A daring and timely feminist retelling of The Iliad from the perspective of the women of Troy who endured it—an extraordinary follow up to The Silence of the Girls from the Booker Prize-winning author of The Regeneration Trilogy.
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I felt as I used to do, as a very young girl, that the wind was the breadth of a god filling me with life.
Pat Baker, The Women of Troy
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she gets me she just does
#kassandra#cassandra of troy#kassandra of troy#greek mythology#anne carson#greek women#tagamemnon#speaking of#fuck agamemnon#apollo#etymology#cannot believe i forgot that tag
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Book review: The Women of Troy & The Silence of Girls by Pat Barker
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The Women of Troy: 3⭐️
The Silence of Girls: 3⭐️
These retellings won't please everybody. Everyone has their own opinion/version and, after all, the Iliad is also one side of the story. And lately we've had many different versions from the female point of view.
In this case, both books tell us the story of Briseis. In the first book she tells the story from before, and right up untill the end of, the war of Troy; in the second one we have the aftermath of the war, and how everyone is handling it, or being handled with.
Briseis is our narrator, but sometimes we have the male point of view, although she tells every female story. And as such, through their silence she releases their pains.
#book recommendations#book review#reading challenge#goodreads#2022#greek mythology#mythology#The Women of Troy#The Silence of Girls#Pat Barker
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i reserved the women of troy at the library bc i read the silence of the girls by pat barker and i thought that was a good read
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Women!
#star trek#star trek tng#tng#star trek the next generation#the next generation#beverly crusher#wesley crusher#william t riker#william riker#jean luc picard#deanna troi#geordi la forge#data soong#spot the cat#tasha yar#lwaxana troi#q continuum#q star trek#miles o’brien#keiko o'brien#guinan#ro laren#lal soong#daforge#datasha#imzadi#qcard#femininomenons your star trek#the explanation is aliens!#aliens who also said women don’t die hence Tasha and Lal!
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star trek ladies
#ive been watching tng its so so good i really love it. if you csnt tell#tasha i miss you i loge you i miss you#guinan geta her own drawingbexause i lovr her so much#star trek#star trek tng#star trek tos#nyota uhura#nurse chapel#christine chapel#deanna troi#beverly crusher#tasha yar#star trek women#guinan#star trek guinan#art#women#digital art#fanart#artists on tumblr
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i love you nyota uhura i love you christine chapel i love you deanna troi i love you beverly crusher i love you tasha yar i love you lwaxana troi i love you kate pulaski i love you ro laren i love you keiko o’brien i love you jadzia dax i love you kira nerys i love you leeta i love you moogie i love you ezri dax i love you kathryn janeway i love you b’elanna torres i love you seven of nine i love you t’pol i love you hoshi sato
#i love you women of star trek#i know i theyre not all these but im just adding the characters i knoww#add ur favs keep it going#add more love!!!!!!!!#this post was brought to u by lwaxana troi btw#christine chapel#deanna troi#beverly crusher#tasha yar#lwaxana troi#kate pulaski#nyota uhura#ro laren#keiko o’brien#jadzia dax#kira nerys#leeta#moogie#ezri dax#kathryn janeway#b’elanna torres#seven of nine#t’pol#hoshi sato#tos#tng#ds9#voy#ent#star trek
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